pufferfishy, nice thread I think all of us have our preferences for orb proximity. We try to make things happen which sometimes don't exist; but nevertheless in this instance, you are basing yours on your personal experience which is great
StarVega, post them here, I would like to see! Astro-forum dino That is a strange story that this guy made you hit the send button... and then look what happened, you pressed the button to change your life forever !
lucina, That's interesting, also Aries Sun people have their sun in your 4th house (tropical) too? Double bonus.
lucina , That's interesting, also Aries Sun people have their sun in your 4th house (tropical) too? Double bonus.
Yes, they do. Also my Draco Venus is on 25°58 Aries.
I have tropical Sun on 25°56 Sagittarius, tropical Mercury (DESC-ruler) on 25°03 Sagittarius. (Draco Mars on 25°01 Pisces and Draco ASC on 26°51 Pisces).
Well basically that means that a planet aspecting my Draco Venus, will usually also aspect my tropical Sun. If we limit ourselves to conjunction and opposition to the DRaco placements, then this would mean these planets make a trine or sextile to my Sun in the tropical synastry, which seems to be fairly positive.
Tight squares to Draco placements seem to be very "colourful", too. (maybe because we are really dealing with an axis and a square would always fall onto the focal point of that axis) , though in this instance that means the aspects to my tropical would be more "awkward" (semisextile/ quinkunx).
The aspect to my Draco Sun on 15°46 Aries would be potentially a bit more challenging, as I have tropical Saturn on 16°57 Cancer. So any tropical planet conjunct or opposite my Draco Sun would be squaring my tropical Saturn, too.
But I certainly have a Saturn-pattern to the luminaries anyway, usually it is a square of either their Saturn to my Sun or my Saturn to their Sun. Not sure why it seems to be a square most of the times, but that is what I noticed. At least with guys. With women it could be different aspect.
Like my best friend`s Saturn opposes my Moon and my Saturn squares her Moon exact and sextiles her Sun. Another friend has her Sun-Saturn-conjunction falling onto my Moon. (all in tropical). My Saturn quinkunx her Sun. Another friend from long ago (we are not in contact anymore) has her Saturn trine my Sun and my Saturn quinkunx her Sun-Moon-conjunction which is conjunct my Moon.
It seems that the Moon-Saturn-quinkunx in my chart gets triggered quite a bit, especially in female friends. Hmm StarVega, isn`t your Moon trine my Saturn? and of course your Sun opposes my Saturn, so I suppose that is another luminary-Saturn-case from my life. lol
Well in my tropical I have a very exact closed circuit between Moon, Saturn, Juno, Karma.
Moon 17°06 Aqua Karma 16°01 Gemini Saturn 16°57 Cancer Juno 16°58 Pisces
so a Moon-Karma-trine interacting with a Saturn-Juno-trine (most exact aspect in my chart), being connected through semisextiles/quinkunxes (I think this pattern is called "invincible fortress" in Magi astrology).
Since the orbs are almost ridiculously close whenever one planet is triggered by anything so will the others, though of course in a different way, as the aspects are not of the same harmonic (If natal Moon gets a square by a transiting planet, Saturn will get a trine or sextile for example)
Anyway since my Draco Sun is on 15-16 Aries, whatever aspects it, will aspect some of these planets, too and the whole configuration lits up (as it is a closed circuit the energy enters at one point and then will flow through the others).
I wonder if that is the reason for the pattern of apparently liking Saturn-aspects to the luminaries in synastry, and as you maybe noticed I seem to have a preference for the so called hard aspects to or from Saturn.
this is something I noticed, too, though, if I am affected by Aries people, they usually have their tropical Sun (or Moon) conjunct my Draco Sun.
And my Draco Venus seems to be targeted quite a bit by the luminaries in particular, though this is not strictly by conjunction or opposition.
Yes, same here! Well their suns are usually either on my SN, like sven555's, or my draco sun. I've known a few early Taurus people but saw them rarely. I've never really known anyone born from April 27-May 7th, not that I recall. It's all May 8th to May 17th.
yes that is interesting. Well there are some other ways the aspect can form, but there seems to be a conspicuous gathering of birthdates around 7th-9th april, as well as 11th-29th december, gathering around the ARiespoint in Capricorn really
One thing that's interesting for me....well, a few random bits and pieces:
1) My daughter's draconic sun @ 19.40° Virgo is tightly (exactly?) conjunct my ex's natal sun. Her name is related to his middle name, and yes I did that on purpose. And yes he must know. And no I don't care.
But I only saw this draconic link many years after naming her that. Pretty shocking.
As the story goes, we were all at a funeral together when she was very young. She didn't want me holding her so I put her down and was attending to my son, when she crawled away very fast and sat right by my ex's feet. I had to go get her. Later I had to put her down again, and it didn't occur to me this could be a problem, but she immediately went over to my ex again. People who know us and our history, all these mutual friends, looked on with disbelief and shock.
Could that magnetism be draconic sun conjunct tropical sun?
Well I just checked this for the first time, and they have composite sun conjunct Venus and Mars in Libra. Good energy
2) I seem to know a lot of people with:
- Draconic sun in Aries, conjunct my Jupiter and draconic Venus (like lucina ) - Draconic luminaries in Pisces, conjunct my tropical moon - Draconic conjunctions to my natal, in general
One could say, that's just a matter of chance, of COURSE I'll know people who put conjunctions somewhere. But it's odd how unlikely some of these friendships are. How totally different we are in location, background, age, temperament, etc.
One person actually told me off in a bad way, and yes I'm a stupid Pisces moon, but I have my limits. Yet we still seem to have a viable connection. Their draco sun opposes my draco moon; my draco sun opposes their draco moon. Full moon both ways, echoed by a full moon in tropical composite.
My draco sun-Jupiter square overlaps and is the inverse of their tropical sun-Jupiter square. Maybe we'll never talk again, and that's fine by me.....why did we ever talk to begin with, though? Draconics? 🤔
Well my Draco birthday would have been on 5th april. Actually I just cast my Draco-birthday chart. lol using Draco Sun`s exact degree, minute, seconds and chose the year before my birth (as we always substract the North Node from our birthplanets, and I thought it was somehow fitting that it leads us back into the pregnancy-phase, well in my case about a month after conception. )
How funny that even in that chart a Sag ASC comes up (and partile conjunct my birth ASC). Also my Draconic Moon is at 6 Gemini.
Anyway I was pretty baffled seeing that chart, as it seems so intense, have not yet delved into it deeply though. Funny however how my Solar Return this year has Mars-ASC on 28-29 Aquarius and my pr Venus is also at 28 Aquarius, replicating this chart`s Venus. Wondrous thing these astro.charts. lol
and this is P`s draco birthday chart (with a Draco Sun on 25 Cancer, it leads us back to july before his birth).
But fun or not.... P`s Draco birth-chart (or prebirthchart lol), has
his Venus conjunct his eldest Son Venuso n 15 Cancer exact - in fact his first born was born with Venus on 15 Cancer opposite Pluto on 11 Cap square Uranus on 16 Aries, while Venus also in his chart is trine SAturn on 16 Scorpio, so there are some more interchart aspects
his Venus trines his son`s Saturn exact and squares his Uranus exact, and being widely opposite PLuto (seems his son inherited the Venus-Pluto-issue from his Dad)
his Pluto opposes his son`s Uranus exact and squares his Venus exact his Uranus conjuncts his son`s Saturn exact and trines his Venus exact
his Mars conjuncts his son`s DESC by 3 degrees and his Neptune conjuncts his ASC exact
his DESC conjuncts his son`s Mercury exact (and his Sun is conjunct it widely, too)
and I also noticed some interchart aspects with his youngest son´s birth chart
his Venus on 15 Cancer opposing the youngest Pluto on 17 Cancer, also: squares his Mercury-Uranus on 14-17 Aries
his Pluto opposes that MErcury-Uranus, pretty closely his Mars opposes the little one`s Moon-Saturn in SAg his Neptune conjuncts in particular the Saturn
(well this son of his has inherited the Moon-Saturn-issue of his Dad).
his Neptune also squares the son`s Jupiter-NN in Virgo (15-21 Virgo, Neptune is on 18 Sag)
his SAturn-NN is exactly opposes his Son`s Neptune on 10 Pisces (and widely conjunct Jupiter)
his Mercury-Jupiter on 14 Leo makes a grand trine with his son`s Mercury-Uranus on 14-19 Aries and his Moon-Saturn on 13-16 Sag
I was pretty surprised to see how strongly the charts interrelate, especially since I was just checking that Draco-birth chart as some kind of a joke!
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