This is very interesting. and you used 2 degree orbs I think?
Well I found it particularly interesting that there is a Sisyphos-Atropos-Persephone on P`s Saturn-DESC-Vertex (I wonder if maybe Atropos-Sisyphus is something positive? After all Sisyphus is where we repeat useless actions that never bear any good result, but we have to repeat it again and again, doing all the hard work for nothing really, and if Atropos is cutting this and putting an end to it, that seems actually like a good thing, right?)
So funny that there is a stellium on our Sun though. Well Icarus is maybe flying a bit close to the Sun. But I like Terpsichore there. And Cupido. Don`t know ASkalaphus.
Well my Terpsichore is conjunct his Venus. What not to like about that?
"I didn't pay attention to the minutes, so everything there is simply under 3°." I once read in an astrology book that the author was just taking into account the same and the neighbouring degrees. That seemed like a pretty simple straigtforward way to look at these.
Personally I tend to keep an eye on an orb of under 3 degree as well, though taking those especially serious that are on the same degree or within one degree. However, if there is a stellium, 3 degrees seem to be absolutely fine with me; I feel it might be different, if there is just empty space in between the planet and the asteroid which are 3 degrees or more apart.
I don`t know, well I do feel "certain" about the same and neighbouring degrees; the others might or might not be there. lol
"Atropos-Sisyphus does look positive when you consider it that way. And my mentality lately goes in line with it..." Or there is a way to read it more negatively. Don`t know. I was opting for the nice way.
Well I am still wrestling with the conjunction of Chiron and Atropos in our composite, which is opposing Union and squaring the horizon. I actually have no clue how to interprete that. I find it interesting that Chiron is on 29 Aries and Atropos already on 00 Taurus though. But I can`t tell you what I think it means. Not really.
You know what is really hilarious? P has natal SISYPHOS on 25 Scorpio conjunct natal Uranus on 23 Scorpio and pr Uranus on 25 Scorpio and his pr MARIA is on 25 Scorpio as well. (this years Solar Return Part of Divorce, also fell there, but I think he navigated around it. Or solar returns don`t mean that much. or Arabic parts. lol )
But anyway isn`t it hilarious that his Sisyphos happens to be on the New Moon? And of course his Erato is there as well.
Well he is repeatedly writing songs, that`s for sure.
Even before seeing that I was also wondering, if in a more neutral way Sisyphos might actually mean that we refuse to accept closure or an end to something (Sisyphos cheated Death TWICE, before being punished for this; because he did not want to stop living and rather stay alive with his wife. lol He was not a nice person though, very arrogant before, but still this part always makes me giggle. By chaining Death however he really annoyed the crap out of Mars/Ares, because no matter how many were being killed in battle, one of them would die! What good is a war to the wargod if the victims are not dead? So he freed Death and brought Sisyphos back into the underworld.)
This part I think relates symbolically to things we don`t want to end, or admit they could or sometimes need to end. A resistance to change actually. Then there is the part about rolling up that rock uphills again and again, so maybe this is where we always repeat actions, restart things. However since there is that need to repeat them again and again, there is no real life result to it, the rock never stays at the top - but I was thinking that within this apparent meaninglessness (because the lack of a visible result), we might find meaning in the process itself (I mean Sisyphos has a lot time to think during it). So the positive thing might be really find meaning in the action itself, even though it will never give the anticipated result and has to be taken again and again.
I hope there is some positive to it, as I have Sisiphos on 8 Sagittarius in between my ASC and Neptune-NN-conjunction. So Sisiyphos is conjunct my NN and therefore part of where I am meant to go, and I don´t believe in an universe so cruel to not leave a loophole.
Anyway it is also conjunct P`s Mercury exactly and in a way that makes a lot of sense, I mean didn`t I always stop and restart communication with him? Or at least that seems to happen a lot. I do think we are actually getting some results, but very slowly, very gradually, and not by the action itself, at least as far as I see it, but by the insights I gain during those periods, and then the way I go about that, changes a little, and even those little changes seem to lead to change the overall.
My Sisyphos is also conjunct our composite BML, which falls onto my ASC, it really took an eternity (!) until I slowly and very gradually learned to accept that I was not only seen as that BML figure apparently, but that to a certain part I do embody her, I am not quite as innocent as I maybe wanted to make myself believe. In this regard here I am rather selfish, and unable to compromise and just really careless about social norms and to some way even moral values. Granted my moral compass is a pretty rigid one to begin with, but it certainly was being tested, and what remains is really an unyielding truth about how I do NOT want to compromise my truth, even if I know I should in favour for being a pleasant obedient member of society and not rocking the boat, any boat. Curiously enough when we first met, our composite almost had a BML return (using h21, there was a conjunction of Tr BML with composite BML of about 3 degrees).
For him SISIPHOS is widely conjunct PERSEVERANTIA on 22 Scorpio, on its own I probably wouldn`t really call it, but his Uranus is right there on 23 Scorpio in between. Well, those two rocks in space together in Scorpio in 8th house looks pretty stubborn to me. lol
Well his Sisiphos is conjunct my Valentine on 27 Scorpio - it does sometimes feel like he`s been really trying. lol (on the other hand his Sisyphos is also conjunct his wife`s Saturn, which happens to be exactly on my Valentine. lol)
his Uranus-perseverantia in particular are closely conjunct composite Valentine-Lust on 22-23 Scorpio, his Sisiphos might be too far off there, or just hanging around at the edge of it, but well it certainly is interesting, it also opposes Juno on 22 Taurus. Basically that means that his natal Uranus in particular is hooked into the axis of our mixed Valentine/Valentine, Lust/Lust and Juno/Juno-midpoints, which is what a composite is after all. A midpoint chart. just that in the case of Juno, his Uranus is on the far midpoint instead the near one. It`s quite an asteroid stellium. And either HE shakes it up, or he is being shaken up by the way we connect at that end. lol
"hat school of astrology uses orbs like this?" Yes it is ridiculous really!
"I don't dance whatsoever, but I like people who move gracefully. " I don`t either. I can`t dance, I don`t think I have a real good feeling for rhythm, I always refused to dance, though I would have liked to. (btw my little nephew is already a dancer, I mean whenever he comes to visit, he demands that my mom plays some swing music and dance with him. lol)
Anyway I usually refuse to dance, cause I think I look silly and are really incompetent in that. lol (btw P as well as Lancelot claim they can`t dance either, but I think they were talking about a more professional style of dancing. lol)
It is really hilarious and ironic that my TERPSICHORE falls onto this Sabian "A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall"
However, nevertheless I sometimes get the feeling P likes the way I move. I don`t know maybe I am wrong. And I wouldn´t call it dancing, but he usually makes people get up in his concerts and dance a little, as much as is possible in a room with chairs at least. The first times this happened I was convinced he wouldn´t see me anyway, and noone else would pay attention to me either, so I could get up and move as wlel (not dancing, just swaying a bit to the rhythm of the music). Apparently I was wrong, cause he did see me, but it also seemed like he did not intend to take his eyes of me ever again, and i couldn´t just stop either. I do even remember the song. lol But anyway, I might misinterprete it, but he seemed to look rather appreciative of me that moment, at least I did not get the feeling of being awkward or weird or silly at all. I wasn`t thinking much anyway. First time it happened, it was more like at least I was falling into a semi-trance, and just responding by movement to the way he was playing guitar (he stopped singing, too, so there was just him playing guitar, and changing the speed in particular, and me sort of following his lead, by modifying my movements. It was not as conscious though, but well an interesting experience. lol )
And while I am just needy and paranoid when it comes about communication with him, sometimes, weirdly enough, during those moments when he plays and I dance, I never fear rejection. Maybe cause he looks at me in that special way, that I cannot really define, but that feels pretty positive to me. lol
Anyway so that is probably my Terpsichore on his Venus. He really likes to see me move. His Terpsichore is not really aspecting anything in his chart but his Venus/Terpsichore-mp is conjunct our composite ASC-Terpsichore-Loving-Anubis. My Terpsichore is not really aspecting anything in my chart either, but my Venus/Terpsichore-mp is falling onto our composite Venus, and in my own chart Terpsichore is conjunct my Moon/Venus-mp, albeit widely (1°19), it is most closely conjunct my Jupiter/Neptune (0°17) and Jupiter/NN (0°23)
It also falls onto our LINK-LINK which are both at 25 Capricorn, too.
BTW my friend is a semi-professional dancer. Her Terpsichore is conjunct Saturn in Leo in 3rd house as part of a Kite with Moon, Neptune, and the Venus-Mars-Pluto-stellium in Libra in 5th house. I think the arrow points at the Moon though.
Her Terpsichore is opposing her husband`s Moon, while his Terpsichore is widely conjunct her Moon (their composite has Terpsichore on his natal Mars, squaring composite Moon in fuid Pisces).
Well they got together during rehearsing and performing a danceduet to Alice Cooper`s "Poison". While she always claims to be averse and suspicious to romantic passion, honestly speaking I have rarely seen anything brimming with erotic intensity as that dance performance. lol While she has not been telling me before that they were getting together, I knew the moment I saw them dance together. lol
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