Yes I agree with you. Applying aspects will yet Happen in the Progressions, so relate to an experience that is developing in Life.
My ASC 7 sag My Neptune 9-10 sag
That would have happened at age 2-3.
I think it relates to either the birth of my brother ( Neptune rules intercepted 3rd ) or might even describe me drowning at about that age.
oh gosh, that sounds horrible, even from a young age! Has it had any repercussions on you? I really hope it means more the birth of your brother Save
i think it was worse for my mom actually. She was about 3 or so, when she witnessed her younger brother fall into some kind of ditch, where he drowned and died, and being that young she of course could not help him. Curiously enough my youngest brother also fell into a pond around that age and nearly drowned, if it had not been for our middle brother who has the Down syndrome, who pulled him out of there. In my case it was my Dad who pulled me out of the swimming pool I had jumped into. Though he once said that it was nothing short of a miracle, as he had not been able to find me under water, but suddenly I had sort of touched his arm or was placed over his arm, as if I had had a guardian angel or something like it. and he does not even believe in those.
Well asteroid Angel is exactly conjunct my ASC incidentally.
I actually think it related to both, the birt of my brother as well as the near-death-experience, which it probably was.
Perhaps, Progressed Venus square Pluto was one contributing factor. (In all honesty, I haven't read too much into progressions before, do they have strong influences?)
Oh wow, so your Mother's Brother (He would have been your Uncle then), died from drowning and then both you and your younger brother had near-death experiences between you. Is there something in the 3 of your natal charts which is common?
My Saturn is in Pisces...I was wondering in class actually (haha) whether this means I am being asked to be more...spiritual? It's in my tenth house right on MC as well.
Thank you for the feedback! You seem like a really fun and interesting person.
Re: Pisces Saturn on the MC...looks like a good placement for some kind of guru. Randall from LL has Pisces Saturn, not that he's a guru, but new members may not know that. With Pisces Saturn on the MC, you can do a better job.
Pisces Saturn may be deeply committed to spiritual practices ~ there may be a challenge with balancing your intuition against what you actually already believe. Perhaps you are receiving flashes of insight and yet, if you cannot find the right "structure" for them (Saturn), you ignore those flashes. All the fine details that Pisces is alert to, which makes Pisces such compassionate souls, because they are paying attention to cues and trying to know what people are actually about....these details get a different kind of treatment with each planet in Pisces, and Pisces Saturn may just ignore them at first, having other social priorities foremost in their minds.
As a Pisces moon I have noticed that my Pisces Saturn friend has seemed oblivious to me. It took her a long time to SEE me for what I was. I think she was more focused on the big picture: her church life, and getting ahead in various spiritual organizations (Saturn = Cap energy and ambition, social climbing, networking.) She is interested in people, but much more interested in community-building itself.
It's not that Pisces Saturn is stone-cold oblivious, it may just want to establish the spiritual context or structure before getting personal. After my friend and I finally started getting to know each other (within a group, of course), THEN she started noticing more about me and exhibiting those Pisces qualities of compassion, warmth, and appreciation.
I have 12H Saturn and I'm similar: I want to feel safe (Pisces/12H) within a group of like-minded people who will stick around (Saturn) before I really open up. I might seem friendly to most people, but I actually spend much more time talking to my fellow astrologers than anyone else, because of the like-minded spirituality.
The other thing, of course, is the idea that Pisces/12H Saturn may fear spirituality. We may fear TRUE spirituality and prefer to experience it in small, controllable doses, rather than diving in and letting everything go and floating out to space on silver cords or whatever. We may blunt our own feelings to prevent a sensation of being overwhelmed by Spirit.
The positive side of this is, whatever we do experience and talk about is under strict quality control: Pisces Saturn isn't going to say they had a ghost in their house unless they have checked the situation over in their minds and ruled out every other explanation. To advance the cause of spirituality on earth, what Pisces/12H Saturn has to offer is this: evidence-based experience.
Astrology fits perfectly in this scheme, it's where the paranormal (Pisces) and statistics (Saturn) meet.....so if you go public as an astrologer and even make money from it eventually (Pisces Saturn on the MC)....I wouldn't be surprised.
But I'm just an amateur myself, feeling out ideas and playing with words. Sorry this was so long!
StarVega thank you so much for that detailed description, sorry i couldnt respond earlier. I definitely understand that structured spirituality definition, I do not feel like I take a particular hippy take on esoteric subjects, even if other people consider subjects like astrology and tarot a bit out there yknow. I like to ground my interests certainly!
Yknow, I do sometimes fantasise about bringing astrology to the masses and exploring it scientifically haha!! Maybe Saturn in Pisces can help me do that one day...
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